steven
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Post by steven on Aug 19, 2009 14:01:13 GMT
alas Kinygos The EEC do not pay for the dust bins to be emptied and washed out, the street lights to be maintained, the streets to be cleaned the harbour to be cleaned, the paths to be maintained, the water and electric for the boats/yachts on the pontoon which is sold off cheaply, the cleaning and maintenance of the sewage plant and pipes, this can only come from revenue i,e rates and charges to bars and taverns for the space they use ie no free drinks even if you supply the bottle!! Life is for living hills are for falling down weight is to be lost  fatcat Were do you stay in Halki if you are not effected by daytrippers it must be waterfront, we have friends who have been waiting a few years to get onto the waterfront in September perhaps they can get in early and book your place for next year. Please can you send me an email via this site and they will get onto it straight away many thanks  The sea is for swimming in  |
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Post by Kinygos on Aug 19, 2009 16:23:02 GMT
That remark is psycologically damaging to me.
You don't realise I am an anorexic.
I know this because when I look in the mirror I think i'm fat.
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Post by Di on Aug 19, 2009 18:03:31 GMT
Oh bugger  . Glad we're going in May next year and not August  . With regards the prices, we tend to go to different islands rather then returning to the same one (although May will be our third time to Halki in 4 years :  and you can see the difference in prices from island to island. Some are still fairly cheap whilst some seem extortionate but 7 to 8 euro's for a main meal seems about average. Having said that, no one likes to be ripped off and sometimes getting a clean glass, a seat and some crisps for a hefty wack more than you were getting a clean glass, a seat and some crisps for the year before does tend to pee you off a bit We're off to Koroni in 3 weeks (Peloponnese) and apparently (so I've been told) prices there are pretty reasonable (2 euros for a large beer - which is what I tend to use to compare prices : Fingers crossed, I'll let you know |
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Post by sunfun on Aug 19, 2009 18:40:51 GMT
:)Hi Di,we're going to arillas in october and from what i've seen,it seems to be a good bit cheaper than halki too.  Still can't wait to go back to halki though! ;D  |
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Post by steven on Aug 19, 2009 18:55:52 GMT
kinykos perhaps the mirror see all  ;D |
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Post by Kinygos on Aug 19, 2009 19:27:52 GMT
As time progresses and the alcohol takes effect so the typing suffers.
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Post by lisa on Aug 19, 2009 21:47:47 GMT
I'm so sorry to hear of your news Andrew, it is very sad. I love Halki very much and could not bear the thought of missing a year. This said, we are lucky enough not to have to go in August and as we have no children the expense is not a problem within reason! Do hope that you find another piece of heaven somewhere, will be interested to see where you opt for. I fear that many people will be following suit.  |
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Post by pda on Aug 20, 2009 8:39:56 GMT
Perhaps then the prices will come down & there will be a bit more room for the few that are left......  Seriously. My sister in law just got back from her first trip with hubby & 3 kids. They loved it. Enjoyed the welcome by the locals, loved the festival & the dancing. Enjoyed being "germans" with the sunbeds at Pondamos. Loved the food. Even enjoyed the trip home on the "Harry Potter" boat, I asked & the kids said it was the Spelliakos !! Converts even in darkest August. |
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Post by davidfromealing on Aug 20, 2009 10:42:27 GMT
It isn't just Halki where the prices are rocketing. I was in Lesvos earlier this year - not in the touristy bit - and everything was expensive. It's almost getting to the point where Greek prices are the same as London. And some Greek products are cheaper in London than they are in Greece.
The problem is that the only response to the declining number of vistors is to put the prices up.
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Post by charlie on Aug 20, 2009 15:33:44 GMT
We noticed the rise in prices but compared to the rest of Western Europe they are no worse. Meals may have increased by a euro but the change in exchange rates has caused most problems. Five years ago a euro was under seventy pence on our June visit it was just under 95.
This year meal at KS was twice what we pay on Halki as was lunch at the taverna opposite the airport.
We had lunch at a local pub last week with a bottle of cheap wine it was £60 which puts things into perspective. Then of course a bacon roll and a coffee at 6am at Manchester shows what inflation really is.
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Post by Kinygos on Aug 20, 2009 15:43:32 GMT
That is spot on. The poor Greek people rely on the rich northern Europeans for income. Therefore, they can always raise the prices and the rich people will always come and pay. The Greeks are so poor that they can keep going back to the EEC for money for capital projects; they are far too poor to invest in their own infrastructure. This is the way it always was, and always will be. Half the profit this year? Double the prices next year! This is the Drachma Heresy. It is conflated with the exchange rate against Sterling for the British, but to attribute the problem to exchange rates is a bogus argument. Our Ferengi contributor and the Greeks see only the profit on each item and disregard the customer satisfaction element. Rule 10 Greed is eternal. Rule 19 Satisfaction is not guaranteed. Etc. I used to think The Rules of Acquisition were a joke, now I am not so sure! Here are the complete rules: projectsanctuary.com/main/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=40A Greek guy, originally from Halki but much traveled, recently explained to me as follows: “The EEC knows that a lot of the money given to the Greek nation finds its way into the pockets of corrupt officials, but they also know that these people will buy Mercedes and BMWs and the money will come back to them that way. We have a small population and the EEC can accept it” The cynicism! As I said Greeks can be their own harshest critics. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2009 15:58:55 GMT
There are no poor Greeks. Only Greece is poor!!
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Post by steven on Aug 21, 2009 7:21:36 GMT
What is amazing is that so many ex-pat's choose to live in Rhodes , Halki and other areas of Greece, if they feel that they are being ripped of , It must be that the benefits out-way all others (or is it just the British way of moaning at all good things!) The Drachma will never come back nor i hope the Generals The sea is for swimming in ;D
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Post by Kinygos on Aug 22, 2009 5:56:14 GMT
Quite agree, and a good job too!
Would that the same could happen in Myanmar.
So in the spirt of conciliation, I will allow that the base unit of price rise on Halki should be 50c rather than 1c as you prefer. I can avoid this myself by buying in Rodos, and if it's OK by you, who am I to argue?
Yes and it's free too!
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Post by steven on Aug 22, 2009 7:01:27 GMT
Such a graceful fall on to ones sword  keep the sea for swimmers or the enforcer
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. With regards the prices, we tend to go to different islands rather then returning to the same one (although May will be our third time to Halki in 4 years :
and you can see the difference in prices from island to island. Some are still fairly cheap whilst some seem extortionate but 7 to 8 euro's for a main meal seems about average. Having said that, no one likes to be ripped off and sometimes getting a clean glass, a seat and some crisps for a hefty wack more than you were getting a clean glass, a seat and some crisps for the year before does tend to pee you off a bit 
Still can't wait to go back to halki though! ;D 
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