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Post by Kinygos on Jul 13, 2009 8:16:22 GMT
I got it wrong about Ftenagia; I spoke to "Angelo". I think the "Conference Saturday" was an anomaly. HOWEVER The lunchtime sessions are dragging on into the evenings and making a long day for the staff. Sometimes they have not finished until 20:00, "and it is getting worse". Quite what they intend to do I do not know. I think that the day visitors create an overload, hence the extended hours. For your pleasure: Day trippers 09/07/09 at 11:22 Elsewhere. Large draft beer I am sure was €3 two weeks ago on the harbour front, and perhaps still is in one establishment. Otherwise expect €3.50, and €4 in another establishment. This is an illustration of the point I raised in "The Drachma Heresy"; nothing less than 50 cents for a price rise. I have not noticed this rise in Rhodes supermarkets with cans; OK not the same thing I know. BUT The sky and sea are blue. The weather is hot. Halki is still lovely! FINALLY, "Give Peace a chance", you know it makes sense!
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Post by carol on Jul 13, 2009 8:44:54 GMT
Thanks for that Simon, shame about Ftenagia not opening in the evenings, but I completely understand as I work in a pub and know how very tiring it is and I am not working in those temperatures ;D Sounds like Graeme will need to bring a bit extra beer money !!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2009 9:14:04 GMT
Interesting to learn what they are charging for a large draft in Mandraki. Not on the harbour front though - it is probably 4.5 or 5 down there.
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Post by Kinygos on Jul 13, 2009 16:31:35 GMT
Regarding beer. In Rhodes Island prices vary. In Rodos town they also vary! The Mandraki side of the New Market can be €1 more than at George's; inside the New Market. As for The Old Town, ouch! However I speak of years ago. I usually drive into Rodos and therefore do not drink beer. I will make a reccy to the bar in my village and see. There are hotels here, so there are tourists, but that will give an idea of Rhodes prices. I do, of course, realise that you pay not just for the beer, but also for the ambience, and that on Halki could be described as priceless! I still take issue with the price rise steps of nothing under 50cents, an preferably the full euro. Is €8 reasonable for squid and chips? I speak of the real thing and not rings from the freezer. It was good. I just notice the differential from home cooking and eating out which I am sure has, and is, increasing excessively; just my opinion, there may be unknown expense rises. I fear that if you, as visitors, self cater more, the prices of the restaurants will increase even more to compensate.
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Post by pda on Jul 13, 2009 21:52:03 GMT
As with all bars & restaurants you pay for the decor & view. A beer in the harbour in Rodos will always be more than a small establishment in the back streets. Thats not to say I don't disagree with Simons views on price rises, I do. The increases on Halki have been much higher than those in Rodos over the last 2-3 years. How much this has do do with the upheaval in the tourist market & how much internal inflation I am not sure. Am certain though there has never been a price including anything other than round euros or 50 cents. Which when you are talking of beer & coffees mean one hell of an inflation rate.... Moan..... Grumble......
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Post by Kinygos on Jul 14, 2009 6:48:11 GMT
Middle aged, middle class, early retired, follicley challenged, always moaning; Victor Meldrew, I am becoming Victor Meldew! “I don’t believe it!” Liz has said that as an adopted Rhodian I have a different outlook on the 50-cent issue. It is true I have the contrast, and I spend a lot of time in Halki, but it is certainly true that the shorter the visit the less the cost matters. Do you see where this is leading? Did you notice the time on the picture on my initial posting? The people on the Nikos Express are arriving at 11:30. If you were one of them, would you not head straight for a beach taverna, swim, lunch, doze, back on the ferry? Would you worry if the meal were a bit pricey? For you it is a one-off. Would you worry about leaving litter? You will not see it again. (Actually if you are a Northern European, you probably would.) Does this indicate the way the future will be? Do day trippers have any less right to be there than you? They probably mean more profit. Does this post contain too many rhetorical questions? Do you need to look up hyperbole in the dictionary?
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Post by Enforcer on Jul 14, 2009 7:21:19 GMT
Simon, because you are a fisherman we expect all your pontificating to be hyperbolic. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Liz on Jul 14, 2009 15:42:25 GMT
Middle aged, middle class, early retired, follicley challenged, always moaning; Victor Meldrew, I am becoming Victor Meldew! “I don’t believe it!” Liz has said that as an adopted Rhodian I have a different outlook on the 50-cent issue. It is true I have the contrast, and I spend a lot of time in Halki, but it is certainly true that the shorter the visit the less the cost matters. Do you see where this is leading? Did you notice the time on the picture on my initial posting? The people on the Nikos Express are arriving at 11:30. If you were one of them, would you not head straight for a beach taverna, swim, lunch, doze, back on the ferry? Would you worry if the meal were a bit pricey? For you it is a one-off. Would you worry about leaving litter? You will not see it again. (Actually if you are a Northern European, you probably would.) Does this indicate the way the future will be? Do day trippers have any less right to be there than you? They probably mean more profit. Does this post contain too many rhetorical questions? Do you need to look up hyperbole in the dictionary? I think I see what your saying Simon ..at the end of the day its up to the people of Halki where they make their money from ..most of us only visit for two weeks but at the same time ..........we do love a good moan !! ;D ;D ;D Its the age old balancing act ...and as they say ...you can't please all the people all of the time
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Post by Kinygos on Jul 14, 2009 17:21:38 GMT
Indeed Liz; consider the Ephemeroptera; they spend years on the mud in the bottom of a river. Finally, they emerge as a beautiful creature for a day to change their clothes, mate and die. (If the trout or the swallows don’t get them first) To me, and to residents, tourists are all ephemera, whether they are here for a day or two weeks! There is, however, no excuse for spoiling the environment you have come to enjoy, showing inconsideration to others, or failing to understand the true value of the euro; a powerful international currency. Note I am excluding the assumption of avaricious profiteering. An idiosyncratic point of view maybe, coloured by my lack of interest in sun beds and a passion for angling. Too crowded, and I’m “gone fishin’”! In fact it doesn’t have to be crowded at all!
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Post by Liz on Jul 14, 2009 17:31:22 GMT
you lost me after.... 'consider the'.... ;D and I would like to think that I ( the tourist ) is held in greater esteem than some mud dwelling beastie ;D
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Post by Kinygos on Jul 14, 2009 17:38:48 GMT
You didn't get as far as the beautiful creature and the sex?
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Post by Liz on Jul 14, 2009 17:48:30 GMT
was too knackered after trawling for years in the mud ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2009 17:49:00 GMT
Down boy,down!
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Post by Kinygos on Jul 14, 2009 17:56:12 GMT
sth When you only get one day, procrastination is counterproductive; carpe diem!
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Post by Liz on Jul 14, 2009 18:45:20 GMT
anyway them ephy things ....they must be gay ..everyone knows theres no way a woman could scrawp about in mud,emerge beautifull, change clothes,kop off and kark it !!.........all in one day ..........never ! ;D ;D ;D
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